One can hear all kinds of insane stuff on Paltalk. For example, in a room discussing Obama's credentials and the legality of Obama assuming the Presidency, one can hear one crazy comment after another. People in the room often want to change the topic to discuss how awful Islam is, or claim that Obama is a terrorist or a communist, or discuss a world-wide communist conspiracy or a world-wide Islamist conspiracy. They then rant and rave and spew all kinds of nonsense.
The participants often do not have a clue what they are talking about and exhibit their lack of knowledge and literacy over and over. One said the "electorial college" is formed by congress members only, and is never affected by voter fraud, so the ACORN scandal is irrelevant (??). One called McCain a "Beezlebug" (whatever that is). It would be comical except that these characters are not really trying to make jokes.
One room member made a phone call to a staffer working for his senator, and played it live in the room to a few dozen listeners. The staffer did not know who vetted presidential candidates, if anyone, and was subject to about an hour of abuse. The caller identified himself as someone who is on disability since he was released from a mental hospital. Although he might have been joking, I started to wonder as he continued. The staffer said he was not allowed to give his personal opinion about political issues since he is a federal employee. The caller said he was in the same boat since being on SSI means he is a federal employee (??!!??). The caller ranted and raved and got nowhere. The staffer was very polite but did not give him any information that was useful. It made me very uncomfortable to listen to this exchanged.
Many of those who heard this call live later said that they thought the caller had not approached it in the right way. The caller became incensed, and cursed everyone saying that he had years and years of experience of calling staffers and that it never does any good since they "come and go like hookers". Is this a surprise that he never gets anywhere with this approach?
When I questioned this approach, and said that we needed to be effective rather than spinning our wheels, I was told I was "godless" and a "muslim asskisser". Wow. With these kinds of allies, who needs enemies?
Monday, October 27, 2008
Sunday, October 26, 2008
Capitalism=Fascism=Communism
In Paltalk, one can listen to a wide range of nonsense. One lady came to the room and claimed that Senator McCain had never been incarcerated in North Vietnam and that all the accounts of his prisoner-of-war status were faked. She claimed that McCain's limp and badly set broken bones were from airplane crashes where he had killed hundreds of fellow service members, but it had all been covered up. She claimed that McCain had never had a job since he had been either in the military or in the Senate, and that no government jobs or military jobs were real employment. She even claimed that McCain was a "Manchurian Candidate" since he forgave his former captives, and was in favor of capitalism. She said that favoring capitalism was suspect, because "Capitalism is essentially Fascism, which is essentially Communism". Anyone who disagreed with her was met with an angry attack, insults and curses. Oh man...
The IMF controls US elections
In Paltalk one can sample the incredible ignorance of the general public. One very angry and aggressive user came into a room discussing Obama's candidacy, and claimed that it was impossible for Obama to have been born outside the US since the CIA, NSA and IMF check all the backgrounds of US Presidential candidates. This is outrageous, since anyone working for the CIA or NSA investigating a "US person" would be fired and probably jailed for doing so. And the International Monetary Fund as well? What on earth does the International Monetary Fund have to do with candidates for US presidency?
In fairness, this user also stated that it was impossible for Obama to be a non-US citizen since the FBI could not also be fooled. Of course, even in the case of the FBI, which is allowed to do this kind of investigation, there is no evidence that they have been tasked to do this.
From his accent, it was clear that he was not a native English speaker, and probably was not even an American. He obscured the issues being discussed with his nonsense and angrily attacked anyone who disagreed with him. Oh brother...
In fairness, this user also stated that it was impossible for Obama to be a non-US citizen since the FBI could not also be fooled. Of course, even in the case of the FBI, which is allowed to do this kind of investigation, there is no evidence that they have been tasked to do this.
From his accent, it was clear that he was not a native English speaker, and probably was not even an American. He obscured the issues being discussed with his nonsense and angrily attacked anyone who disagreed with him. Oh brother...
Thursday, October 23, 2008
Muslim men have courage!
On Paltalk I encountered a quartet of men who purported to be Muslim and decried the supposedly "pussy-whipped" status of Western men; particularly American men. They said that the problem with the West is that they have forgotten what honor is, and like cowards appeal to the police and the judicial system to settle disputes. They said any real man would treat "his women" (including his wife, girlfriends, children, mother, aunts, etc) as property and would beat anyone who looked at them or touched them, or would kill anyone who dared to touch any woman of "his". They said only a coward would ask the police and the court system to help. They said they did not care what the law is, and that the real measure of a man is how much killing he has done personally, not using cowardly methods like technology to do their killing. They said any "real man" would not allow women to have any say in politics or any other matter and that women were dirt and should be regularly beaten and that Western men were cowards for listening to women, and Western men were therefore faggots and feminized. They went on and on and on. I asked these great geniuses if they had personally killed anyone, but it turned out that not one of these brave souls admitted to killing anyone. They blustered on and on, belching and farting on the microphone and insulting anyone in the room. They even mistook several women in the room for men, and called them queers and faggots, attacking them visciously over and over. Wow I am really impressed. What a great religion Islam is! It sure supports family values and seems like a much better alternative than what the West has.
Interestingly, whenever I or others have suggested that these blowhards should live in a country that favors their mindset, and leave the West and its Western values to Westerners who appreciate it, they become very defensive and angry. None of them want to leave the West and its comforts. They only want to change it to reflect what they feel is the "right" sort of culture.
Oh brother...
Interestingly, whenever I or others have suggested that these blowhards should live in a country that favors their mindset, and leave the West and its Western values to Westerners who appreciate it, they become very defensive and angry. None of them want to leave the West and its comforts. They only want to change it to reflect what they feel is the "right" sort of culture.
Oh brother...
Monday, October 20, 2008
Paltalk NWO
Here is an example of the kinds of nonsense that one gets exposed to on Paltalk:
Good heavens...
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Good heavens...
Condeleeza Rice is a Communist!
The range of opinions one encounters on Paltalk is mind boggling. One amateur "sovietologist" on Paltalk held forth for hours claiming that the Soviet Union never collapsed, and that it is still in a close alliance with China. All of the border clashes were ruses. Condeleeza Rice is supposedly a traitor and a communist and a KGB informant. He claimed that Condeleeza Rice's PhD advisor, Josef Korbel (Madeleine Albright's father), is a communist and KGB agent, and a former Nazi. This is quite an impressive claim, given that Korbel was a Czech Jew who fled the Nazis, and returned to Czechoslovakia and then had to flee again when the communists took over Czechoslovakia in 1948!
He also claimed that Taiwan has been secretly taken over by China already because all its leadership are loyal to the communist party in mainland China. All the leaders in China are supposedly not native Chinese, but Chinese from Singapore, which is why they have brought capitalism to China.
He claimed that Germany plans to leave NATO. He stated that Angela Merkel is a secret communist.
He was extremely angry when I questioned any of his story. He claims that world wide domination by a secret underground communist conspiracy is only months away. At the point the plan is finally put into action, all westerners will be slaves to the Soviet/Chinese overlords.
His proof of some of this nonsense is that Obama is associated with William Ayers, a known communist radical. He also noted that one of the senior officials in a Soviet intelligence agency had a birthday of September 11, and that this was further "proof" that the Soviets were behind the attack on the world trade center.
Oh....my...gosh...
Addendum
A blog discussing this theory appears here. A video he uses as a source is here. In the video, a defector named Bezmenov claims that Jane Fonda became "filthy rich" because of her activities as a dissident!
He also claimed that Taiwan has been secretly taken over by China already because all its leadership are loyal to the communist party in mainland China. All the leaders in China are supposedly not native Chinese, but Chinese from Singapore, which is why they have brought capitalism to China.
He claimed that Germany plans to leave NATO. He stated that Angela Merkel is a secret communist.
He was extremely angry when I questioned any of his story. He claims that world wide domination by a secret underground communist conspiracy is only months away. At the point the plan is finally put into action, all westerners will be slaves to the Soviet/Chinese overlords.
His proof of some of this nonsense is that Obama is associated with William Ayers, a known communist radical. He also noted that one of the senior officials in a Soviet intelligence agency had a birthday of September 11, and that this was further "proof" that the Soviets were behind the attack on the world trade center.
Oh....my...gosh...
Addendum
A blog discussing this theory appears here. A video he uses as a source is here. In the video, a defector named Bezmenov claims that Jane Fonda became "filthy rich" because of her activities as a dissident!
Sunday, October 5, 2008
Fight like a Man
In my wanderings at Paltalk, I have gained many insights into the mindset of Muslims. One common theme that is repeated over and over is that one has to "fight like a man" [1] . They disdain using cover, defenses, modern vehicles or even modern weapons as being "cowardly". Supposedly the bravest thing one can do is to brandish a sword or scimitar and scream like a maniac. Using any thought or strategy or tactics is viewed as cowardly. I have heard this over and over, and I have started to realize this is a common theme among Muslims. Is it just frustration, or pure stupidity? I do not know, but it sure is backwards.
It is typical of lots of other Islamic thought. For example, it is common when young Afghans or Iraqis are being trained to use a rifle for them to hold the rifle above their head and fire randomly instead of aiming. They figure that they will hit what they want to hit if Allah wills it. They often have to be retrained to understand the concept of cause and effect. Wow...
It is typical of lots of other Islamic thought. For example, it is common when young Afghans or Iraqis are being trained to use a rifle for them to hold the rifle above their head and fire randomly instead of aiming. They figure that they will hit what they want to hit if Allah wills it. They often have to be retrained to understand the concept of cause and effect. Wow...
Saturday, October 4, 2008
Quran Only
On Paltalk, one can run into all kinds of flakes. I have had the "honor" of encountering a group of "Quran Only" "Muslims" that reject all of the sayings of Mohammed captured in the hadiths, and all of Sharia law. They claim that anyone who follows Sharia law is not a Muslim, and that this is well known.
It is very frustrating to try to discuss Islam with them, since any of the most common objections one has about Islam they can easily dismiss. All of the bad practices in Iran, and Egypt and Syria and Saudi Arabia, and all of the bad behaviors of the Taliban and the Ayatollahs, are easily rejected by Quran Only Muslims since they can claim that the people in Iran, Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia are not "real" or "true" Muslims. The Quran Only Muslims say that the Taliban and the Ayatollahs are not really following Islam. They say that the Shiites and the Sunnis and the Sufis and the Salafis and the Alewites are not Muslims since there are no sects in Islam, according to their interpretation of some passages in the Quran. They say that there is no mention of Aisha's young age, or penalties for apostasy in Islam. Obviously, Quran Only Muslims are viewed as heretics by mainstream Sunni and Shiite Muslims, and fatwas have been issued against them. Some Quran Only Muslim leaders have been murdered.
Even objectionable language in the Quran is easily disputed by these people, since they claim that their personal translations and interpretations of the Quran are superior to all published translations of the Quran. They claim that they and only they know the "true" meaning of the Quran. Even when presented by 10 or 20 or 50 or 100 other translations of the Quran by real Muslim scholars with positions in Islamic Universities, they are unbowed. These scholarly translations and interpretations are discarded cavalierly since these nonArabic speaking Quran Only Muslims claim they know the Arabic in the Quran better than native speakers of Arabic or Professors of Arabic or Professors of Islam.
While other mainstream Muslims claim one has to read the Tafsirs, i.e., the Islamic exegeses or commentaries, on the Koran and the Hadiths to understand Islam, Islam Only Muslims claim that the Tafsirs are haram.
We even had the pleasure of these nonArabic speakers giving lessons in pronounciation of Arabic words to native Arabic speakers. I later found out that only 13 percent of all practicing Muslims can speak Arabic, even though they have to pray in Arabic! I was astounded at the boldness of these characters in promoting their own particular beliefs. They made the claim that most Muslims were Quran Only Muslims, contrary to all demographic statistics. After all, roughly 85 percent of all Muslims are Sunnis and 15 percent of all Muslims are Shiites, but according to Quran Only Muslims, Sunnis and Shiites cannot be Muslims. I asked repeatedly to be given peer-reviewed studies backing up their claims that most Muslims are Quran Only Muslims, but I was met with just double talk and anger, and crazy gratuitous claims. For example, they claimed that 75 million Muslims in Eastern Europe are Quran Only Muslims, and that all the Muslims in Pakistan are Quran Only Muslims. Not very compelling, frankly.
Unfortunately when I realized what was going on, I compared the Quran Only Muslims to their Christian Counterparts that follow only the bible, and claim that those who do not interpret the bible the way they do are not Christians. I was immediately contacted by someone Christian who claimed that this is not true. They said there are no fundamentalist Christian groups who do this. And then, after they had claimed that they do not do this, they proceded to do exactly this, and tell me that only Christians who believe in the trinity and in being born again are real Christians. They become so obnoxious and aggressive and angry and nasty about this that I had to just block their accounts. Wow...
It is very frustrating to try to discuss Islam with them, since any of the most common objections one has about Islam they can easily dismiss. All of the bad practices in Iran, and Egypt and Syria and Saudi Arabia, and all of the bad behaviors of the Taliban and the Ayatollahs, are easily rejected by Quran Only Muslims since they can claim that the people in Iran, Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia are not "real" or "true" Muslims. The Quran Only Muslims say that the Taliban and the Ayatollahs are not really following Islam. They say that the Shiites and the Sunnis and the Sufis and the Salafis and the Alewites are not Muslims since there are no sects in Islam, according to their interpretation of some passages in the Quran. They say that there is no mention of Aisha's young age, or penalties for apostasy in Islam. Obviously, Quran Only Muslims are viewed as heretics by mainstream Sunni and Shiite Muslims, and fatwas have been issued against them. Some Quran Only Muslim leaders have been murdered.
Even objectionable language in the Quran is easily disputed by these people, since they claim that their personal translations and interpretations of the Quran are superior to all published translations of the Quran. They claim that they and only they know the "true" meaning of the Quran. Even when presented by 10 or 20 or 50 or 100 other translations of the Quran by real Muslim scholars with positions in Islamic Universities, they are unbowed. These scholarly translations and interpretations are discarded cavalierly since these nonArabic speaking Quran Only Muslims claim they know the Arabic in the Quran better than native speakers of Arabic or Professors of Arabic or Professors of Islam.
While other mainstream Muslims claim one has to read the Tafsirs, i.e., the Islamic exegeses or commentaries, on the Koran and the Hadiths to understand Islam, Islam Only Muslims claim that the Tafsirs are haram.
We even had the pleasure of these nonArabic speakers giving lessons in pronounciation of Arabic words to native Arabic speakers. I later found out that only 13 percent of all practicing Muslims can speak Arabic, even though they have to pray in Arabic! I was astounded at the boldness of these characters in promoting their own particular beliefs. They made the claim that most Muslims were Quran Only Muslims, contrary to all demographic statistics. After all, roughly 85 percent of all Muslims are Sunnis and 15 percent of all Muslims are Shiites, but according to Quran Only Muslims, Sunnis and Shiites cannot be Muslims. I asked repeatedly to be given peer-reviewed studies backing up their claims that most Muslims are Quran Only Muslims, but I was met with just double talk and anger, and crazy gratuitous claims. For example, they claimed that 75 million Muslims in Eastern Europe are Quran Only Muslims, and that all the Muslims in Pakistan are Quran Only Muslims. Not very compelling, frankly.
Unfortunately when I realized what was going on, I compared the Quran Only Muslims to their Christian Counterparts that follow only the bible, and claim that those who do not interpret the bible the way they do are not Christians. I was immediately contacted by someone Christian who claimed that this is not true. They said there are no fundamentalist Christian groups who do this. And then, after they had claimed that they do not do this, they proceded to do exactly this, and tell me that only Christians who believe in the trinity and in being born again are real Christians. They become so obnoxious and aggressive and angry and nasty about this that I had to just block their accounts. Wow...
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