You hate Muslims!

I often encounter people from the Muslim world in Skypeland who want to impose Sharia Law in the USA, or to kill all Americans, or who cannot understand why the US and the West are the way they are. Here is a text exchange with one of these gentlemen from Syria, spread out over a few months, although there were also some audio portions to this conversation as well.

He and others had told me that Americans should all be killed if they do not convert to Islam. I had told him that the US does not want to replace its legal system with Sharia law.


[8/12/2007 2:58:58 PM] M says: Why?

[8/12/2007 2:59:15 PM] M says: What do you say If you become Muslem?

[8/12/2007 2:59:27 PM] M says: :)

[8/12/2007 2:59:45 PM] M says: Really i MADE A polish man Muslem

[8/12/2007 3:00:59 PM] M says: And If you saty with me just a week I'm sure to make you Muslem :)

[8/12/2007 3:02:30 PM] B says: haha

[8/12/2007 3:02:45 PM] M says: I'm sure

[8/12/2007 3:02:50 PM] M says: and I can

[8/12/2007 3:12:14 PM] M says: Islam Will be increase the problem won't solve at all Bye I hope you become Muslem too Amin

[8/12/2007 3:13:12 PM] B says: I am not interested in joining Islam

[8/12/2007 3:13:13 PM] B says: Sorry

[8/12/2007 3:13:57 PM] B says: I hope you reject the hate of extreme Islam

[8/12/2007 3:14:02 PM] M says: can we chat for only 5 minuts

[8/12/2007 3:18:33 PM] B says: There are many wars that have nothing to do with Islam (He had said that all wars were against Islam).

[8/12/2007 3:18:49 PM] B says: But the extremist Islamists must be condemned by the moderates

[8/12/2007 3:18:53 PM] B says: or else it creates a bad impression

[8/12/2007 3:19:01 PM] B says: things like the two fatwahs against me to have me personally killed

[8/12/2007 3:19:08 PM] B says: things like the fatwah against Salman Rushdie

[8/12/2007 3:19:20 PM] B says: things like the Danish Cartoon Riots associated with the drawings of Mohammed

[8/12/2007 3:19:33 PM] B says: things like the beheadings of the South Korean missionaries by Islamists in Afghanistan

[8/12/2007 3:19:44 PM] B says: Normal moderate Moslems should condemn these actions

[8/12/2007 3:19:57 PM] B says: or else a very bad impression is created

[8/12/2007 3:20:22 PM] M says: those are Muslems or Islam

[8/12/2007 3:20:58 PM] M says: dso you think that killing Children is Islam

[8/12/2007 3:21:32 PM] B says: If Muslims say over and over that all Americans must die

[8/12/2007 3:21:42 PM] B says: If Muslims say that suicide bombings are good

[8/12/2007 3:21:48 PM] B says: It is from an Islamic fatwah

[8/12/2007 3:21:53 PM] B says: and if I hear that over and over

[8/12/2007 3:21:55 PM] B says: and no one objects

[8/12/2007 3:22:07 PM] B says: it creates a very very bad impression

[8/12/2007 3:22:26 PM] B says: Actions speak louder than words

[8/12/2007 3:22:30 PM] B says: I dont care if they "go to the hell fire"

[8/12/2007 3:22:34 PM] B says: Actions speak louder than words

[8/12/2007 3:22:52 PM] B says: Islamic extremism is evil

[8/12/2007 3:22:58 PM] B says: It is full of hate

[8/12/2007 3:22:59 PM] B says: and anger

[8/12/2007 3:23:11 PM] B says: Listen to Salman Rushdie

[8/12/2007 3:23:27 PM] B says: Listen to Wafa Sultan

[8/12/2007 3:23:44 PM] M says: Salamn Rushdi

[8/12/2007 3:23:51 PM] B says: Listen to Ahmadinejad

[8/12/2007 3:24:36 PM] B says: Look, things are equal.

[8/12/2007 3:24:39 PM] B says: If Muslim extremists want to kill us

[8/12/2007 3:24:42 PM] B says: we will kill them

[8/12/2007 3:24:43 PM] B says: Is that clear?

[8/12/2007 3:24:47 PM] B says: IS IT CLEAR?

(He said he did not understand why Salman Rushdie should be allowed to write his books or the Danish should be allowed to publish those cartoons).

[8/12/2007 3:24:56 PM] B says: FREE SPEACH

[8/12/2007 3:25:02 PM] B says: IT IS THE LAW

[8/12/2007 3:25:18 PM] M says: go down the stret with out clothes can you?

[8/12/2007 3:26:09 PM] B says: There are two fatwahs against me

[8/12/2007 3:26:11 PM] B says: to kill me

[8/12/2007 3:26:15 PM] B says: So what if I issued a fatwah against you

[8/12/2007 3:26:16 PM] B says: to kill you

[8/12/2007 3:26:18 PM] B says: Is that fair?

[8/12/2007 3:26:20 PM] B says: fair enough?

[8/12/2007 3:26:22 PM] B says: It is equal

[8/12/2007 3:26:26 PM] B says: Let's be equal

[8/12/2007 3:26:30 PM] B says: You want to kill?

[8/12/2007 3:26:33 PM] B says: Should we kill in return?

[8/12/2007 3:26:57 PM] M says: What do you blieve in ?

[8/12/2007 3:27:58 PM] B says: I believe in not killing

[8/12/2007 3:28:01 PM] B says: I like Islam

[8/12/2007 3:28:06 PM] B says: But Islamic extremists are full of hate and anxious for more killing

[8/12/2007 3:28:12 PM] B says: and full of evil, hate-filled people

[8/12/2007 3:28:14 PM] B says: who want to kill me

[8/12/2007 3:28:46 PM] M says: Fatwa?

[8/12/2007 3:28:46 PM] B says: FATWAH

[8/12/2007 3:28:54 PM] B says: FATWAHS TO KILL ME

[8/12/2007 3:29:15 PM] B says: You want fatwahs against us?

[8/12/2007 3:29:17 PM] B says: Then we can have fatwahs against you.

[8/12/2007 3:29:20 PM] B says: This is equal

[8/12/2007 3:29:22 PM] B says: This is fair

[8/12/2007 3:30:36 PM] B says: If you want to be treated like civilized human beings

[8/12/2007 3:30:42 PM] B says: you will renounce violence

[8/12/2007 3:31:08 PM] B says: But all things have to be equal and fair

[8/12/2007 3:31:11 PM] B says: Do you like Mecca?

[8/12/2007 3:31:13 PM] B says: or not ?

[8/12/2007 3:31:16 PM] B says: What if we got rid of Mecca?

[8/12/2007 3:31:18 PM] B says: So there was no more Mecca ?

[8/12/2007 3:31:37 PM] B says: Behave like civilized human beings

[8/12/2007 3:31:39 PM] B says: and not animals

[8/12/2007 3:31:46 PM] B says: and you will be treated like civilized human beings

[8/12/2007 3:31:49 PM] B says: or else...

[8/12/2007 3:32:05 PM] B says: If you threaten to kill me...I might threaten to kill you

[8/12/2007 3:32:10 PM] B says: That is fair, is it not?

[8/12/2007 3:32:20 PM] B says: That is bad

[8/12/2007 3:32:22 PM] M says: that is right

[8/12/2007 3:32:25 PM] B says: We should not threaten to kill each other

[8/12/2007 3:32:29 PM] B says: We should live in peace

[8/12/2007 3:32:37 PM] M says: Oh peace

(Somehow this option always seems like something to dismiss, or a ridiculous option to some of these people... Coexistence, and living together in peace seems like a silly notion and something that should never be considered. Strange...)

[8/12/2007 3:32:37 PM] B says: You can have Sharia law in your country

[8/12/2007 3:32:43 PM] B says: and we will have our law in our country

[8/12/2007 3:32:48 PM] B says: We will not have Sharia law in our country

[8/12/2007 3:33:13 PM] B says: You can cut off the hands of thieves if you want

[8/12/2007 3:33:17 PM] B says: You can stone girls if you want

(He brought up the claim that the US went to Iraq to steal Iraqi oil. Always, if they want to disrupt the conversation, they bring this red herring up.)

[8/12/2007 3:33:35 PM] M says: Iraq

[8/12/2007 3:33:44 PM] B says: Iraq... the US takes no oil from Iraq

[8/12/2007 3:33:46 PM] B says: Nothing

[8/12/2007 3:33:50 PM] B says: You are wrong

[8/12/2007 3:33:50 PM] M says: USA is far 10000000 kilo meters

(Actually, the distance from New York, New York to Damascus, Syria is 5671 miles (9126 km), or 4928 nautical miles. The distance from New York, New York to Baghdad, Iraq is 6009 miles (9670 km), or 5222 nautical miles.)

[8/12/2007 3:33:59 PM] B says: The US tries to stop the Sunni and Shia from killing each other

[8/12/2007 3:34:00 PM] M says: that is not true

[8/12/2007 3:34:05 PM] B says: They kill each other because of an undercurrent of hate and violence in Islam

[8/12/2007 3:34:07 PM] B says: They are full of hate

[8/12/2007 3:34:10 PM] B says: They hate each other

[8/12/2007 3:34:19 PM] M says: asif you are not in the earth

[8/12/2007 3:34:26 PM] M says: Man

[8/12/2007 3:34:26 PM] M says: and asif you are from ..

[8/12/2007 3:34:27 PM] B says: You do not understand much

(Actually we did not understand each other, because I found it difficult to understand where he was coming from as well. I can only imagine the kind of negative information he is fed in his Mosques and in the Arab media and in the coffee houses in his town. However, I have heard others say that no Sunni Moslem has ever killed a Shiite and no Shiite has ever killed a Sunni. And then a few minutes later, this same Moslem will tell me how much he hates Sunnis or Salafis or Sufis or Shiites and wants to kill them all since they are not real Moslems...)

[8/12/2007 3:34:28 PM] B says: Sorry

[8/12/2007 3:34:40 PM] B says: That is why we will not have Sharia law in the USA

[8/12/2007 3:34:42 PM] B says: Never

[8/12/2007 3:34:43 PM] M says: USA took every thing from Iraq

[8/12/2007 3:34:48 PM] M says: until freedoom

(I really do not know what that last comment meant. Until freedom?? What does that mean?)

[8/12/2007 3:34:52 PM] B says: We got rid of Sadam Hussein

[8/12/2007 3:34:55 PM] B says: The Iraqis are glad

[8/12/2007 3:35:10 PM] M says: And now What is ging on there

[8/12/2007 3:35:21 PM] M says: bring the peace to it again

(Of course, this seems to be the current goal of the US to me, but it is made worse by Iraq's neighbors including Syria with their agitation and interference.)

[8/12/2007 3:36:02 PM] M says: USA goverment until now coudn't give one iraqian man safe why ?

[8/12/2007 3:36:07 PM] M says: tell me why?

[8/12/2007 3:36:26 PM] M says: every day 19 0r 70 people die why?

[8/12/2007 3:36:33 PM] M says: Oh I know

[8/12/2007 3:36:38 PM] M says: this is USA LAW

(This is a common sentiment I have heard over and over. They feel that it is somehow American law that Iraqis and/or Moslems should be killed. An astounding misunderstanding on someone's part, and I do not think it is on my part.)

A few weeks later:

[9/17/2007 2:09:38 PM] M says: this is you B really you are welcome

[9/17/2007 2:10:02 PM] B says: haha

[9/17/2007 2:10:03 PM] M says: you are who was talking about : Fatwa

[9/17/2007 2:10:12 PM] M says: I remmeber you

[9/17/2007 2:10:18 PM] B says: oh ok

[9/17/2007 2:10:25 PM] M says: speak please

[9/17/2007 2:12:50 PM] B says: where?

[9/17/2007 2:13:07 PM] B says: oh I see

[9/17/2007 2:13:11 PM] B says: yes I am going back and forth

[9/17/2007 2:13:13 PM] B says: I will be back

[9/17/2007 2:13:13 PM] M says: in the public chat which you are in

[9/17/2007 2:13:19 PM] B says: I am in 2

[9/17/2007 2:13:22 PM] M says: I hope

[9/17/2007 3:23:41 PM] B says: i will be back

And later:

[11:56:23 AM] M says: When I see you in I feeel frightened

[11:56:31 AM] M says: Why really I don't know

[11:56:38 AM] B says: Why?

[11:56:47 AM] M says: May because of you hide smile

[11:56:55 AM] B says: I hide smile?

[11:57:23 AM] M says: I think your name is B isn't it ?

[11:57:29 AM] B says: Yes it is

[11:57:31 AM] B says: I am B

[11:57:47 AM] M says: oh I still remeber you but may you don't

[11:59:15 AM] M says: do you still hate Islam or you changed your mind ? :)

(Where on earth he obtained this impression is beyond me. Because I do not want to become a Moslem, I automatically hate Islam? Because I do not want to live under Sharia law, I automatically hate Islam? Because I object with being threatened with death, I automatically hate Islam? However, it is interesting that he believes this...)

[12:01:27 PM] B says: I never hated Islam

[12:01:29 PM] B says: You are confused

[12:01:33 PM] B says: That is not me

[12:02:06 PM] M says: no man you told me that you hate Isalm

[12:02:23 PM] B says: You are mistaken

[12:03:35 PM] B says: I am afraid