Proof that the United States does not exist

One hears all kinds of nuts in Skypeland. One man from the UK claimed that Mickey Mouse comes from the fake country known as the United States. He maintained that there is a conspiracy revolving around the claim that the United States exists. He had some fairly strange reasoning; since in the UK "something that is shit is called Mickey Mouse", he said this proves that the United States secretly does not exist. I tried to disagree and he said, "You are an American man who is obsessed with asses, in the American dream." He also said that nothing happened on 9/11 since that is the 9th of November in the UK, and this demonstrates that there is a serious conspiracy when claiming that Arabs were involved in an attack on the World Trade Center. Wow some of these guys are really rational, aren't they?

A few others in the room said that anyone who believes that 9/11 was not an inside job was a complete idiot. They asked why burning jet fuel could bring down the World Trade Center, since the temperature at which jet fuel burns is too low to melt steel. I asked about the bridge in Oakland. They had not heard of it, and were confused about it and became angry. They did not know what this event had to do with the collapse of the world trade center:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269118,00.html
Ah, I see. Well, not really, but oh well...

One character from the UK chanted over and over, "three buildings, two planes". The UK person said, "People who believe that 911 was caused by 19 Arabs are in denial, or are being paid to lie, or are unable to discern fact from fiction." He said his education level was substantial since he had graduated from one of the best high schools in the UK. Ah that sounds like he has more authority on the subject than all of the experts in civil engineering and metallurgy etc:
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
http://wtc.nist.gov/

Very impressive. Of course, those 200 PhDs and professors from around the world are all plants, or dupes, or have been bought off, right?


I sent a few links to some material debunking the 9/11 conspiracy theories:

http://www.debunking911.com/ Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Evidence against Controlled Demolition and its most widely held myths.

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=pubs-english&y=2006&m=August&x=20060828133846esnamfuaK0.2676355
U.S. State Department Web Page on Theories

http://www.jod911.com/ Journal of Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories - free online publication dedicated to educating the public on the collapse of the three World Trade Center structures on September 11 2001.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfK7SDWbOLw Why Do You Think They Fireproof Steel Trusses? If steel can't be affected by fire?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn96gG7biTI Sorry Decky11, 9/11 was NOT an "inside job" The WTC towers showed telltale signs they were about to collapse several minutes before each crumbled to the ground.

http://www.representativepress.org/BowingDebunksExplosives.html
Indications of the Imminent Collapse of the World Trade Center Buildings Disprove Explosives Theory] WTC Pre-Collapse Bowing Debunks 9/11 Controlled Demolition Theory
http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html 9-11 Loose Change Second Edition Viewer Guide debunking of ''Loose Change'' and 9/11 conspiracy theories by Mark Roberts.
http://www.911myths.com/ 911 Myths - articles by UK software developer and freelance writer Mike Williams on a wide range of 9/11 conspiracy theories.
http://www.alternet.org/story/12536/ Alternet - When 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Go Bad - critical article on 9/11 conspiracy theories by David Corn.
http://www.adl.org/anti_semitism/9-11conspiracytheories.pdf Anti-Defamation League - Unraveling anti-semitic 9/11 conspiracy theories
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/26/150221
Democracy Now! - The New Pearl Harbor - debate between David Ray Griffin and Chip Berlet.
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-09-11.html eSkeptic Newsletter - 9/11 Conspiracy Theories - article debunking several 9/11 conspiracy theories by Phil Molé.
http://www.geocities.com/factsnotfantasy/ Facts about 9/11. Not Fantasy.
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/archive.php?id=20060619
Filibuster cartoons - The Truth About 911 - editorial cartoon mocking 9/11 conspiracy theories.
http://internetdetectives.biz/case/loose-change Internet Detectives - Loose Change - point by point debunking of ''Loose Change''.
http://www.leftsanepeople.com/ Left SanePeople
http://www.mikejwilson.com/911 Mike J. Wilson's 9/11 Report - computer animation of Flight 77's crash in the Pentagon.
http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins040902.asp National Review Online - 9/11 Denial - article on Thierry Meyssan's ''L'Effroyable Imposture'' by James S. Robbins, a national-security analyst & NRO contributor.
http://www.nymetro.com/news/features/16464/ New York Magazine - The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll - critical article on 9/11 conspiracy theories by Mark Jacobson.
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/911truth.html Pointless waste of time - Did the U.S. government plan and execute the 9/11 attacks? - satirical article on ''Loose Change'' and 9/11 conspiracy theories.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=1&c=y Popular Mechanics - Debunking The 9/11 Myths - examines the evidence and consults the experts to refute the most persistent conspiracy theories of September 11.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000DA0E2-1E15-128A-9E1583414B7F0000 Scientific American - 9/11 has generated the mother of all conspiracy theories - article skeptical of 9/11 conspiracy theories by Michael Shermer.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/ Screw Loose Change blog - blog covering 9/11 conspiracy theories and 9/11 Truth Movement by James B. and Pat.
http://www.911mysteriesguide.com/MarkyX/ Screw Loose Change video - counter-video of ''Loose Change 2nd Edition'' by Mark Iradian.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm Snopes.com - Hunt the Boeing! - debunks the claims of the ''Hunt the Boeing!'' website.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons The Best Page in the Universe - There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons. - argument against 9/11 conspiracy theories by popular Internet humorist Maddox .
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 A page showing pictures of the remnants of the plane after it hit the Pentagon.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?bid=3&pid=66 The Nation - The 9/11 X-Files - critical article on 9/11 conspiracy theories by David Corn. Focuses on Michael Ruppert and Delmart Vreeland.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1531315,00.html
Time - Setting the Record Straight - debunking of several 9/11 conspiracy theories by Coco Masters.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1531304,00.html
Why the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Won't Go Away - critical article about 9/11 conspiracy theories by Lev Grossman
http://www.medievalhistory.net/wtc7.htm EVIDENCE AND AFTERMATH- A study of the primary source evidence against conspiracy.
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jul/27-595713.html U.S. Department of State - How to Identify Misinformation
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2006/Jan/20-672210.html
U.S. Department of State - September 11 Conspiracy Theories - links to refutations of various 9/11 conspiracy theories.
http://mckinneysucks.blogspot.com/ WhatDIDN'Treallyhappen.com - strong focus on refuting Michael Ruppert's timeline.
http://project911.bravehost.com/ Project 911 focuses on the facts, not theories of 911
http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/news/ny-nyhen125370714sep12,0,6464883.column Six years later: Silly theories and sadness Ellis Henican - Newsday Columnist finds conspiracy theory activists near sixth anniversary ceremonies sincere but ridiculous blames Bush for popularity of theories

I am sure no one will read it. The man in the UK assured me that his mind was already made up and he was not interested in knowing any evidence or facts. How reasonable...